When it comes down to it, very few leaders will not want to do the right thing.

Claire Jasper

Head of Internal Communications, Quilter

Be honest about the risks — and rewards

'It's easy to throw money at problems and think "we'll retain people longer if we just throw more benefits at them; we'll make people happier if we give them more time off". Those things actually work against the business because they cost money and they take time away from doing jobs,' warns Ashira. 'You've got to change the mind set of that.

'There was one no one right answer for us at Palo Alto Networks,' admits Lindsay. 'The best-case scenario was that we needed to personalize on behalf of the employees. That meant giving them the choice — and that was a very difficult thing for many of our executives to buy into. It's obviously a huge paradigm shift, lots of biases were being challenged. So the way that we approached it was leveraging data in different places.'

'We know that employee experience has an absolute link with disengagement, but it also poses huge amounts of business risk around things like service levels and corporate reputation,' says Claire. 'Bringing those things to the fore with our executive committees and our senior leaders, then demonstrating how those risks are very real for our business if we're not getting the experience right definitely helps with the case.'

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